Devuan

2015-05-11
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(on Wikipedia)
https://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=Devuan
https://devuan.org/

Debian without systemd.

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2020-06-05 - devuan_beowulf_3.0.0_amd64 ∞

  • The installer deleted all my files and I had to restore from backup.

  • Resolved: I had developed an issue with my earlier Debian install on Virtualbox where I couldn't run a script a second time when it was already in use, because the executable flag would be removed when it was running on NTFS.

Earlier installation attempts ∞

It took me a while to figure out what and how to install.

  • devuan_beowulf_3.0.0_amd64-netinstall.iso

    • I got an error during the install process, so I gave up.
      in-target: Can't exec "apt-get": No such file or directory at /usr/bin/debconf-apt-progress line 130, <STDIN> line 1.

  • devuan_beowulf_3.0.0_amd64_desktop-live.iso

    • Deleted all my files.

  • devuan_beowulf_3.0.0_amd64_minimal-live.iso

    • Also deleted all my files.

I ended up doing a system prep, installing from devuan_beowulf_3.0.0_amd64_desktop-live.iso and restoring my files. What a pain, but at least I get to repartition so I don't have to do this again in the future.

  • During the time zone setup I could not use my scroll wheel for the list of zones. It ends with Barbados. The workaround is to cursor through it. Perhaps this is because of the default.. maybe 800x600 in VirtualBox.

~2019-06-07 or earlier - reinstallation notes ∞

  • ~2019-06-07 or earlier - reinstallation notes (version unknown)

  • trying sddm display manager - seems nice!
  • trying LXQt desktop - it has no application menu, failed
  • trying PCManFM-qt - seems fine
  • while booting, not having a net connection freezes it for a long time..
  • with default GUI - suspend doesn't trigger the screen lock..
  • rebooting and poweroff takes a long time since sda3_crypt is busy. This didn't use to be the case.

  • I had to edit /etc/apt/sources.list to comment-out the cdrom reference. This is a fundamental failure, and this should not have been released without this solved.

2019-02-22 - devuan_ascii_2.0.0_i386_desktop-live ∞

On my Dell Inspiron 11 3180

liveUSB ∞

When booting into the liveUSB, graphics is corrupted.

installed ∞

  • Encryption without LVM on Devuan failed miserably, and I gave up, choosing to use the installer's automated LVM+encrypted.
  • Graphics works fine, but the font is too large.
  • The console is blank, though I can see the cursor move when I type.
  • /etc/apt/sources.list -> remove the cdrom reference.. then apt-get update. Wait, there's no networking.

  • Wait wait wait.. I was never prompted with a password when booting up.

Abandoning Devuan.

2018-11-10 - devuan_ascii_2.0.0-rc_i386_dvd-1 ∞

  • Thunar has very odd defaults..

    • It's default text editor notepad isn't installed. mousepad, which is also an option given, is.
    • The default image viewer is Wine internet explorer..
    • The default .gif is "Document Viewer"
    • The default .pdf is GIMP
  • LiveUSB default root password: toor

  • The LiveUSB has an installer of some sort, though at a glance it looked nothing like the text/graphical installer I'm used to.

My new computer doesn't have networking support with Devuan, even though Debian works.

2018-04-09 - Devuan-1.0.0-jessie-i386-DVD ∞

I went through hell to try to work around a Devuan 1.0.0 avconv crash. I ended up trying Debian, but as Debian was a nightmare I came back to Devuan.

  • fdisk to make partitions.

    • I vaguely remember fdisk doing the Right Thing.
  • The Devuan textmode install has no "show password" feature like the Debian one.
  • Having separate swap and root partitions which are encrypted means that initial bootup requires typing in both of those passwords. If using LVM, just that one partition needs to be encrypted, and any volumes within it will all be available when their parent LVM partition is.

  • Installed without the desktop environment.

    • This was kindof a good idea, because it saved the download/install of updating all those programs that I might have needed to uninstall anyway.
    • This was kindof a shit idea, because I had to download/install a lot of stuff after the fact.
  • Hey wait, I wonder if my shit Debian disk access was a shit Debian disk access type, like a scheduler. See my scheduler.sh
  • TODO - check out https://popcon.devuan.org/ to get inspiration for things to try!

  • Debian had a shit console <-> X11 switching speed.

    • Though maybe this was part of the disk access problem.
  • This is where I began experimentations for solving my Devuan 1.0.0 avconv crash.
  • TODO - don't bother with a swap, and just have one huge encrypted / and do away with LVM entirely, for simplicity.
  • TODO - Is it even possible to re-use / overwrite the files of an encrypted partition? Specifically search / ask for help on this topic before the next reinstall (presumably for Devuan ascii)

  • TODO - My fbpanel volume plugin doesn't appear any more. I think this is because I didn't install the everyday Devuan GUI and its tools, and I'm missing some sort of ALSA/OSS bridge or some shit.

.. and I'm done with my general fucking around. I have a reasonable system again.

2017-07-07 - Devuan-1.0.0-jessie-i386-DVD ∞

These notes might be a bit disjoined since my paper notes were misplaced and I found them a month later.

prepared with a simple dd

  • Has a live copy2ram

  • Doesn't get the display right, it mirrors, but the resolution is okay. To fix, I guess.

    • No stretch functionality
  • Quite manual for the setup
  • GParted
  • manually select partitions for mount points

  • I'm going to have to go back to ext4, and drop btrfs.

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  • TODO - edit fstab with UUIDs
  • couldn't go back to the locale selection
  • my choice of encrypted password never matches...
  • no LVM options?
  • TODO - get the Devuan install ISO

  • alt-escape isn't mapped

user: devuan

  • wow, very manual and specific

  • freezes on the GRUB install

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  • Debian live-screen locked, don't know password.
  • Tried to switch to root, "
  • Cannot cancel attempt'
  • c-a-f7
  • console auto-login
  • pass=live

  • root has no password

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I installed MATE.

  • "Graphical install" freezes

  • Cold boot, retry

    • The same, though numlock is slow to respond
  • I waited a lot longer, and it was just very slow.
  • Fast and simple installer
  • When erasing for encryption, cancel, is slow.
  • I made devuan-vg

  • I don't know how to make an unencrypted partition when I'm working with encrypted partitions.

    • Perhaps with the advanced install?

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Booted up fine

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  • No dual monitor

    • No, it works, I had to un-check [_] same image in all monitors

  • caja as root?

    • caga-exceptions-common -> no
  • It has no btrfs support
  • I cannot install btrfs-tools, it prompts for the Debian DVD. I got it manuall from Debian
  • Devuan is i686? No, uname is wrong.

  • I have a duplicate vgroup name! ARGH!

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  • Reinstall, fix system name

  • Try advanced, for an alternate partitioning

    • I don't know how to set up an encrypted LVM
    • doing guided, I'll separate/resize later, I guess.

  • TODO - disable ntp, check other services.

    • /etc/apt/sources.list -> remove the cdrom reference.. then apt-get update

2017-07-02 - jessie_1.0.0_i386_desktop-live ∞

  • root / toor
  • devuan / devuan
  • The default screen is nice
  • Startup freezes on the initial initrd line, but is otherwise fast enough.

  • Needs lvm2 by default.

    • apt-get install lvm2
  • Fucking Thunar. Why do people use shit like this?

  • The desktop uses the top-bar bottom-dock nonsense. Idiots.

2016-11-29 - 1.0.0-beta ∞

A new version came out on the day I finally got everything up and running.. =/ Here's hoping it's happy as a rolling-release.

  • The guided encrypted LVM - when it overwrites with random data, the text is cut off.

  • Can I urandom, after the fact, into a file within the LVM/encrypted LV?

  • TODO? - Resize the partition using GParted Live?

    • Then resize the LVM
    • Then make another partition outside of the LVM, accessible by Windows?

  • Is there an offline installer ISO?

    • Well since packages are cached, I could copy them to make them available offline.
    • TODO - resurrect my offline updating project and share it.

Attempting to semi-manually set things up so I could have a leftover partition for Windows would not work..

  • One setup asked me for a kernel, what's the right choice?

    • linux-image-686-paw seems okay, I guess.

  • initrd is asking for either the generic or targeted initrd. I chose targeted.

The install seemed to go well, but upon reboot the keyboard was frozen when it was asking for the password prompt. This is likely the same problem I was recently having with dm-crypt on Slackware.

2016-11-07 - devuan_jessie_1.0.0-beta_i386_CD ∞

They're using the earlier kernel 3.16.7, so perhaps my freezing issues (which may or may not have to do with the kernel version) will not exist for Devuan.

I don't know that the main thing will be appropriate, so I'll check out distributions based on it..

Distributions based on Devuan ∞

/tag/linux-distributions-based-on-devuan

Gnuinos ∞

https://web.archive.org/web/20190215222103/http://www.gnuinos.org:80/index.php/en/

  • Openbox
  • Minimalistic
  • 2017-06-30 - Still alpha
  • May require its own packages channel.

  • Has no community? No forum or mailing list that I can see.

Nelum-Dev1 ∞

https://sourceforge.net/projects/nelum-dev1/
https://sourceforge.net/projects/nelum-dev1/

STAR ∞

https://sourceforge.net/projects/linnix/
https://sourceforge.net/projects/linnix/

CROWZ ∞

https://sourceforge.net/projects/crowz/
https://sourceforge.net/projects/crowz/

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